Re Artspeak on Koons

Yes, but they can be unravelled.

The myth illustrated is

But where is the Icarus artspeak

The meaning of The Fall of Icarus is that, despite all of Icarus's vainglory and yearning, he falls unnoticed while mundane activities go on. Breughel compares the atmosphere of the myth to that of the world.

I have also seen the Koons piece, and it is impressive because Italian ceramicists crafted it and in a funereal sense because it resembles a Mme. Tussaud wax figure.

You seem to be contradicting yourself, saying on the one hand, that Breughel is more obscure than I think, while the Koons piece is less so.

If koons is clear to you, what exactly is meaning? The most important feature is the confusion of the monkey's leg with Jackson's arm.

But the topic you broached was about art writing - and I have a question on the floor to you. First things first. Where are the a couple of examples of writings about Breughel's work for comparison? It's my contention that we would find there also 'artspeak' which would make your arguement more or less meritless - just a unsupported 'dig' at what you think is 'modern art.'

No, I am not interested in getting into a personality battle or in talking about talking. I prefer concrete discussion and information.

I have an analysis of breughel's blind leading the blind which is far better than the koon's artspeak, which I will post later.

But that would be 'concrete.' You might even discover that art writing typically falls into styles and genres, regardless of the period discussed. What it boils down to is that you really can't support your dig at 'artspeak' - or at least your premise will tumble down under the weight of any objective scrutiny.

All things considered, I don't blame you for chicken-shitting out of a good arguement.

But why not do the research? Certainly you've spent some time finding two like-sounding clips on Koons to 'support' your specious argument - why not spend equal time undermining your counter-example in the name of objectivity?

It's probably because they both used the same press release to write their